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Re: TV Guide Channel in Mexico

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:50 am
by AriX
MZSLV wrote:Hmm, looks interesting when you are looking if Prevue was only on America, it's obvious most of channels has its international versions, lemme tell this for you know this.
TV Guide has introduced in January 1995 as "Prevue Latino", for example in my experience here in Mexico they used the blue Scrolling grid at 1996 through Channel 2 from Megacable Los Mochis. It was wonderful and a bit creepy because when each Preview ends the video turns black and waiting for the next one. Those idents were playing at :00 and :30 of every hour, and static logos for :15 and :45 of every hour.
Interesting, thank you for this information! I'm just going to add a bit about what I've found out in the past few days.
MZSLV wrote:They never showed "Prevue Tonight" "Family Vue" etc. I guess those blocks was for the original american version. But were introducing local advertisings.

In 1997, Prevue Latino has changed its blue scrolling for this one similar to Prevue Junior as you saw these videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYLZuIA5asQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9heFAKlcB5I
(They are from Chile, in 1998)
Are you saying that it looked exactly like those videos, or that it looked like those videos and scrolled also?
MZSLV wrote:Before getting new previews of the month, Prevue Latino crashed every month and display an error.
Right - United Video did not have a satellite feed for versions of the Prevue Channel that were not in English, so instead a LaserDisc system was used. Every month, a new Laserdisc was sent to the cable headend, and the machine had to be rebooted. The unfortunate result was that these locations had the same previews for an entire month, meaning that towards the end of the month everything started to get VERY repetitive.

This Laserdisc system originated with Sneak Prevue, but was re-used for the Prevue Channel when Prevue International was launched. Those who have looked into the Prevue software for Amiga may have noticed a comment in the startup script saying "run ESQ, PGL, or LG w/ select code". The copy of the disc we have only has ESQ, which in fact stands for "esquire" as a sort of inside joke between the developers, while some copies, like the international versions, use LG, or Laserdisc Guide. I have a picture of one of these Laserdiscs somewhere, but I can't find it at the moment.
MZSLV wrote:I know Prevue has changed to TV Guide channel (May 1999), and kept its Prevue jr interface until were replaced by the platinum grill during mid 2000.
Sorry, what do you mean by platinum grill exactly?
MZSLV wrote:In my city when Megacable Los Mochis has started the Digital Service in 2007, the platinum grill has finally arrived, but weeks later TV Guide were crashed fatally and to cover the error, they brought back the Prevue jr look, just took less than few days.
Really? That's very very interesting/odd. Do you have video of this?

Re: TV Guide Channel in Mexico

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:52 pm
by MZSLV
AriX wrote:Are you saying that it looked exactly like those videos, or that it looked like those videos and scrolled also?
Yep, it looked exactly, it didn't scrolled, just displays like those videos.
AriX wrote:Sorry, what do you mean by platinum grill exactly?
Ah, the current TV Guide look, ran by Windows NT, I nicknamed the "platinum" grill, althought don't look exactly for its differents programming colors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIzbtMB4oV0
AriX wrote:Really? That's very very interesting/odd. Do you have video of this?
unfortunately i didn't recorded at time, but i have the video about the "Prevue Jr." look, covering this error.
If i have luck, i'm going to try finding those VHS tapes and fix my VHS player.

Re: TV Guide Channel in Mexico

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:43 pm
by AriX
MZSLV wrote:unfortunately i didn't recorded at time, but i have the video about the "Prevue Jr." look, covering this error.
If i have luck, i'm going to try finding those VHS tapes and fix my VHS player.
That would be great if you have time. Thanks!

Re: TV Guide Channel in Mexico

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:31 am
by MZSLV
Oof, as i told i didn't recorded at time the fatal crash, but i finally got the video about the "Prevue jr. look" and running for a few days, it was February 20, 2007. I apologize for the bright, but my Capture Recorder didn't made a good work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCcaXu5gEZw

and also this one, but no sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giPG7cjASsk

Re: TV Guide Channel in Mexico

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:39 pm
by AriX
MZSLV wrote:Oof, as i told i didn't recorded at time the fatal crash, but i finally got the video about the "Prevue jr. look" and running for a few days, it was February 20, 2007. I apologize for the bright, but my Capture Recorder didn't made a good work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCcaXu5gEZw

and also this one, but no sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giPG7cjASsk
Huh! So weird... I guess we can conclude at least that this system is NOT Amiga-based, since they did not know how to feed the Amiga systems with data by 2007. It seems it is indeed probably related to the Prevue Junior product, which I really didn't think was likely until now.

Re: TV Guide Channel in Mexico

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:33 pm
by tin
Where's this Prevue Jr discussed? It seems to have passed me by!

Re: TV Guide Channel in Mexico

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:56 pm
by AriX
tin wrote:Where's this Prevue Jr discussed? It seems to have passed me by!
I don't remember what we said about it, but try http://www.google.com/search?client=saf ... 887e893d25

Re: TV Guide Channel in Mexico

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:17 pm
by tin
AriX wrote:
tin wrote:Where's this Prevue Jr discussed? It seems to have passed me by!
I don't remember what we said about it, but try http://www.google.com/search?client=saf ... 887e893d25
LOL ahh Ok only earlier on in this thread! Dunno how I missed ;)

Re: TV Guide Channel in Mexico

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:18 pm
by Bolt96
If anyone still has interest I found a few more recent clips of the Prevue Jr. like grid from Argentina. They appear to have been recorded January 1, 2000.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYVaFP6Cq8Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmMTDZbMg4g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMSkdSHCHUc

Re: TV Guide Channel in Mexico

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:32 pm
by AriX
Bolt96 wrote:If anyone still has interest I found a few more recent clips of the Prevue Jr. like grid from Argentina. They appear to have been recorded January 1, 2000.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYVaFP6Cq8Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmMTDZbMg4g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMSkdSHCHUc
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

I'm now a little bit fascinated by this Prevue Junior platform... Introduced in 1997 to replace the standard Prevue Grid for Prevue Latino... and it was run until 2007? Maybe this was indeed an Amiga-based system. Or, now that I think about it, it could have been an older/different PC-based system. If it were an Amiga system, I kinda think they would have utilized the scrolling feature. At the same time, it's obviously a LaserDisc system based on MZSLV's comments and the way the videos seem to pause for a moment after they end while the LaserDisc player seeks to the next track. Were they using this LD-based system until 2007? I'm going to have to ask some people about this.

Sidenote: what's going on here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Ky2OLwclQ&NR=1