How where the primestart Prevue guides setup?

[tin]

AriX that URL doesn't work, can you take a look at it, and I'll check out the video.

[AriX]

AriX that URL doesn't work, can you take a look at it, and I'll check out the video.

Sorry about that! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYLZuIA5asQ

[Matthew Joseph]

Here is the example of a Primestar Prevue Channel, one video there is a non-scrolling version of Prevue Guide, and it's Prevue Jr. (remember the Mexico clip?):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5e5OTLNqBs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65W7Al2hm3I

[joseph_sobora]

Here is the example of a Primestar Prevue Channel, one video there is a non-scrolling version of Prevue Guide, and it's Prevue Jr. (remember the Mexico clip?):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5e5OTLNqBs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjQX1xiVPX4
(BTW, 100+ channels!!!!)

That's the one I remember seeing! Although that was clearly the sports version, all 5 of them along with the regular Prevue Channel played the same segments of "Prevue Tonight" and "FamilyVue". Shame that these clips are short, hopefully he has some longer clips!

[tin]

How odd.

IMHO the newer prevue jr (right name yeah?) is nasty. Why they couldn't make it scroll I dunno. Also odd as like in the video, the specialist channels would show nothing but the filler graphic while promos are on. So you get the intro and the outro to familyvue for example, but filler in between. "You've been watching familyvue" Have I? nothing happened in it!

It would be good to see another video with the Amiga based PG on one of the specialist channels, and watch it fill in.

Odd. (yeah you might have got the idea I think it's odd!)

[AriX]

How odd.

IMHO the newer prevue jr (right name yeah?) is nasty. Why they couldn't make it scroll I dunno. Also odd as like in the video, the specialist channels would show nothing but the filler graphic while promos are on. So you get the intro and the outro to familyvue for example, but filler in between. "You've been watching familyvue" Have I? nothing happened in it!

It would be good to see another video with the Amiga based PG on one of the specialist channels, and watch it fill in.

Odd. (yeah you might have got the idea I think it's odd!)

Yeah, it is *quite* odd. And I'm increasingly curious as to what system exactly the Prevue Jr. ran on. Obviously it was compatible with both the LaserDisc and satellite feed. I wonder if it is an early version of a Windows NT-based guide? Or maybe it's based on one of the guides that they acquired in the 90s? (TV Guide On Screen, Cable Tele-Guide, etc.)

[mixdup]

How odd.

IMHO the newer prevue jr (right name yeah?) is nasty. Why they couldn't make it scroll I dunno. Also odd as like in the video, the specialist channels would show nothing but the filler graphic while promos are on. So you get the intro and the outro to familyvue for example, but filler in between. "You've been watching familyvue" Have I? nothing happened in it!

It would be good to see another video with the Amiga based PG on one of the specialist channels, and watch it fill in.

Odd. (yeah you might have got the idea I think it's odd!)

Yeah, it is *quite* odd. And I'm increasingly curious as to what system exactly the Prevue Jr. ran on. Obviously it was compatible with both the LaserDisc and satellite feed. I wonder if it is an early version of a Windows NT-based guide? Or maybe it's based on one of the guides that they acquired in the 90s? (TV Guide On Screen, Cable Tele-Guide, etc.)

I bet it's an early, early Windows-based system. 1998 would've been Windows NT, and there would have been hardware available for PCs to do the compositing. I never knew there were other systems using the Prevue Jr. other than Primestar. I wonder if there were any systems in the US other than Primestar, or if they only made their way into Mexico?

My guess is why there weren't more is that they came up with the Prevue Jr. to bridge the gap. They couldn't release any new Amiga-based systems, but by the late 90s there weren't a whole lot of "new" cable systems coming online. Most areas were built out and new services were being run from existing headends or headends were even being consolidated. But, in a place like Mexico you need a brand new system installed and can't limp along with an existing Amiga system. Same with Primestar. They had a Prevue channel before their "Big Switch" but now they needed 4 or 5. Prevue probably knew that it wasn't the best system and they had better coming down the line so they didn't switch out existing Amiga systems. Just conjecture, but makes sense.

[AriX]

I bet it's an early, early Windows-based system. 1998 would've been Windows NT, and there would have been hardware available for PCs to do the compositing. I never knew there were other systems using the Prevue Jr. other than Primestar. I wonder if there were any systems in the US other than Primestar, or if they only made their way into Mexico?

The only issue with that is I talked extensively with the guy who designed the Windows system for Prevue that's still in use today by TV Guide Network, and said that it was their first Windows-based system and only launched in 1999. It's been a while since I talked to him though; maybe at some point I will send him an email and see if there are any details that I missed.

My guess is why there weren't more is that they came up with the Prevue Jr. to bridge the gap. They couldn't release any new Amiga-based systems, but by the late 90s there weren't a whole lot of "new" cable systems coming online. Most areas were built out and new services were being run from existing headends or headends were even being consolidated. But, in a place like Mexico you need a brand new system installed and can't limp along with an existing Amiga system. Same with Primestar. They had a Prevue channel before their "Big Switch" but now they needed 4 or 5. Prevue probably knew that it wasn't the best system and they had better coming down the line so they didn't switch out existing Amiga systems. Just conjecture, but makes sense.

That sounds absolutely reasonable - and if it weren't for my past conversations with TVGC folk, I would probably agree wholeheartedly. I am very curious now exactly how it worked; I'll have to call up my friend and ask him.

[JoeTheDragon]

more videos hear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65W7Al2hm3I

also they have custom NHL center ICE and NBA league pass ad's that say call primestar

[AriX]

more videos hear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65W7Al2hm3I

also they have custom NHL center ICE and NBA league pass ad's that say call primestar

This was discovered over here: http://www.ariweinstein.com/prevue/view ... t=40#p1554